When should I worry?

 

 

Elizabeth at 2 daysThere is a growing dogmatism about fetal positioning.

Remember, most posterior babies rotate in labor.


    Can I tell if my baby will rotate in labor

                        and be able to be born normally?

                                        What if my baby has a difficult time rotating?

 

 

Is this your first baby? Or, is this your first baby you are planning to birth vaginally?

    You will want to make sure your abdomen is relaxed, symmetrical and toned.

 

You don't have to be an athlete to have the tone that's best for birthing. The Relaxin hormone will increase in late labor and be a help to soften a firm abdomen. Relaxing the broad ligament helps tremendously, too. This will help the baby have more room to move (rotate) in labor.

 

Is this your second baby? Or have you given birth 3 or 4 times?

Did labor proceed well? Then you aren't likely to have trouble even if this baby is posterior.

It may take a couple extra hours in early labor to get baby rotated around or the chin tucked. And active labor may take an extra half hour or more. But unless this baby is particularly bigger and can't rotate in labor because of pelvic shape or an epidural before the baby is tucked in (so to speak) and low in the pelvis, the baby will follow those road signs left by earlier siblings to "turn here." These babies find their way.

 

Is this your 6th baby or more?

Wearing a pregnancy belt can help lift weaken abdominal muscles so that baby is positioned well and aimed towards the pelvis when labor starts.

 

 

When should I be Concerned?

 

Baby is Posterior with forehead grinding on your pubic bone

Breech (bottom first), or Transverse (lying sideways)

You regularly have aches and pains around your uterus, ribs, pelvic joints or lower back

 

A few babies, whether first, second or which ever number, have trouble getting through the pelvis.

Difficulty with engagement, previous very long latent/early labor phase (<3 cm with painful contractions for 12, 24,  or 36 hours before dilation became progressive

Previous long pushing stage (more than 3 hours)

 

 

Do a self check for the following issues when your baby is posterior  or breech, or when you have a lot of aches and pains around your uterus and pelvic joints or lower back.

 

In pregnancy

Was/Is my baby head up after 34 weeks gestation (seven months)? This is about when you started seeing your midwife or doctor twice a week for appointments. Baby either flipped spontaneously or by a manual version or was born breech.

Is baby sideways in my womb (transverse lie) and it is after my sixth month?

Did I have several times when I got a piercing cramp in my side in the second trimester, a round ligament spasm that made me catch my breath and hold my side for several seconds or a couple minutes?

Do I have hip pain, feel uncomfortable or in pain when my baby kicks or stretches?

 

fetal forehead wedged in pubis 

 

Do you feel uncomfortable pressure "grinding" against my bladder, pubic bone or behind my clitoris?

 

Does it seem like the baby, at 8 months, shifts back and forth, back and forth, not settling on one side or the other for more than a few days?

 

 

 

 

Has the baby been in one single position, with the feet kicking, but always in about the same place, since 7 months along? This baby would have it's back in one place, but does seem to shift position, except to stretch his or her bum up once in a while or stretch a foot or hand. The baby may lean to your right, may have hands in front where they are felt above your pubic bone and below your navel.

 

overlap of head 

Does the baby's head sit up on the pubis bone? Over lapping on the pubis can be a sign that the head is extended. It is unlikely its a sign of cephalopelvic disproportion. 

 

 

 

 

If you said yes to any of the above questions,

        You may have ligaments or other soft tissue "issues" that can hold your baby in a malposition or prevent easy rotation, and

        The Inversion could be of significant help for you

        You may need professional help to get the baby situated in a better position.

 

 

Especially if you tried the suggestions in What to do in Pregnancy and  have done the maternal inversion several times for a minute or two each time. These are each signs that your abdominal ligaments and your pelvis are out of alignment. When the mother's body is not symmetrical, or aligned, the baby can't lie symmetrical and head down in the womb. Getting body work or other professional help for optimal fetal positioning can improve flexibility in the womb so baby can reposition.

When baby seems to change position frequently have the midwife carefully assess to see if the baby's forehead is leaning against the pubis rather than the nape of the neck. The forehead and the nape of the neck are the same width and can fool even experienced birth attendants. Which they are matters, as one indicates a well tucked head and the other (the forehead) indicates an un-tucked, or deflexed, head.

 

 

 

drawing of baby with a tucked chinIf a first time mom's baby doesn't engage into the pelvic brim by the time labor starts (or doesn't during very early labor) her chance of having a cesarean is far greater than for women whose babies have "dropped."

First babies usually drop around 38 weeks or two weeks before the due date. Some earlier some a little later. Babies of the moms who have given birth before may drop before labor and may not drop, or engage, until labor is under way. They are not at higher risk, per se, for a cesarean unless they have other factors, like induction with an unripe cervix, epidural before engagement, having the doctor break their water, etc., factors that have been shown to increase cesarean birth. Women with a triangular pelvis and women with a pelvic entrance that is wide side-to-side but short front-to-back have to help their babies into an LOA or LOT position in midpregnancy. Read about pelvic shape and fetal rotation.

 

Some first time moms and some first time VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean) moms have straight forward births, remember, even posterior births. Contractions help soften the abdominal structures and the posterior baby will usually rotate and come down. It is the 20-30% of posterior babies that need our help to finish the birth.

 

There's a dip in my belly

 

textbook illustration a dip in a pregnant bellyDoes an indentation in my belly mean my baby is posterior? 

 

An indentation, or dip, beneath your belly button can mean a couple of things.

One possibility is that the baby is posterior. The posterior baby has his or her back along the mother's back. The knees are bent and the arms are bent, usually. Between the arms and legs is a space or a "dip" in the mother's belly. 

Other signs of posterior help determine whether the dip is from the baby's position or one of these other reasons. 

Many women with posterior babies will not see this dip in pregnancy. And some mothers won't see the dip even in labor. This means the "dip" is not a reliable sign of posterior presentation. 

 

Pregnant couple standing in wooded lotHere is a couple who I helped through out pregnancy and birth. They are 8 months along in their pregnancy.  We knew her child was posterior, yet her belly doesn't have a dip.

Why? She is young and  fit. Her abdominal muscles are firm. She has no pad of fat at her lower abdomen-this is a first pregnancy. And her baby's back is on the right, even though her baby is facing forward. (Right occiput posterior.) 

 Later, during this mother's pushing stage she had a clear dip in her belly. Her baby was posterior as he crowned and rotated as he emerged. We got to see him do it! 

They thoughtfully shares her pictures and story with us in The Long Labor That Wasn't

 

 

 

Another surprise.

A woman with a baby who is facing her right and whose back is in her left (left occiput transverse) can allow a dip when the mother's abdominal wall is relatively thin. She may not carry her weight in her belly so it is easy to see the general shape of the baby by those with experienced eyes, at least when she is lying down on her back.

 

A mother whose baby is anterior, whose back is towards her front, can see the dip sometimes when she does have a low lying layer of belly fat that ends slightly below the navel. The fat will buffer the pressure of the baby's back and allow her navel to be an "innie" even though her baby is occiput anterior. This is common when women carry a bit of extra weight around their middle.

 

two views of posterior baby with hand movements in lower abdomenTwo, three or more signs of posterior presentation should be noted before thinking a baby is posterior. The most likely sign is little movements low in front, between the mother's navel and her pubic bone. If only far to the right, or left, low wiggles may indicate a lateral/transverse occiput in a vertical lie. Low movements of a breech can sometimes be confused with an OP baby. Check with a person who is experienced in palpation. Palpation is feeling the baby's body parts through the mother's abdomen when she is lying down with her knees slightly bent (or feet in stirrups if at the clinic).

 

One mother wrote:

"I am just confused about position. I feel kicks on my right side and can feel a back or something hard on left side. The baby is engaged, but I still have this slight dip just below my belly button. My belly button is sticking out and I don't feel movement around my belly button. Does that mean its still posterior? My placenta is anterior."

 

This sounds like the margin of the placenta is thick enough to create a dip in this woman's belly. This is dependent on her abdominal tone.  

 

Gail wrote back:

The placenta will block movements from being felt where ever it is implanted. So when the placenta is anterior baby's movement won't be detailed beneath it.

A dip in the navel area can mean a number of things. It can be the margin where the fat beneath the skin begins to thin out, this is a common spot for that. A dip can be where the recti abdominal muscles separates a bit (the navel will remain in the space between the separation, or midline of it if it is a bit above or below.

A dip is not a reliable sign of a posterior baby.

 

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Drawing of a baby in the womb saying "That's by occiput" and an arrow points to the back of his head. And he says, "That's your posterior." An arrow points to the mother's bottom.Myths about Posterior Presentation

Here we applaud Penny Simkin's brave confrontation of a dogmatic trend.

I was rather surprised, at first, to hear Penny Simkin's talk on The OP Fetus, How little we know.  But then the light when on. 

After all, I have received many emails with questions reflecting some common misunderstandings of occiput posterior issues.

 

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Penny Simkin brought notice to several myths about the OP Fetus to the forefront of discussion during the 2006 DONA International Annual Conference. 

 

A few doulas have even told me they didn't try certain techniques with a mom in the midst of a long labor because the mom didn't have back labor. They were astonished when out came a little face-up baby.  Had the doula known, she said, she'd have had some suggestions to help the mother more effectively, perhaps to shorten her long labor.

 

Because a pattern of challenges seem to point to posterior labor, students of birth have tended to lump these challenges together under the heading of posterior labor.

       Longer labors

       Back labor

       Painful labor needing medication 

 

This can be naive.

 

 

Changes in Fetal Position a 2005 study by Ellice Lieberman and her research group in Boston busted some of the myths that have been growing up around posterior labors. The study was an amazing effort to understand the connection between Epidurals and posterior presentation. You can open a new page and read the Green Journal's full text version of Changes in Fetal Position...

Unfortunately, reading the study casually could lead one to conclude that fetal position changes at random throughout the course of labor.

Yet, if we read the data carefully we find several consistencies with previous research on the posterior fetal presentation. There are similarities in labor patterns and the effects of posterior presentation, and similar percentages of how many posterior babies end up posterior at delivery throughout the last several decades. In other words, we still have the same problems (only more of them with current Obstetric trends). 

What is new in the 2005 Lieberman report is the proof that Epidural anesthesia does increase the rate of posterior presentation at the time of delivery. Another new finding is that interventions are increasing in childbirth and especially in the care of a posterior labor.

 

The Kariminia research team investigation as to whether Pelvic Rocking can prevent posterior presentation at the start and the end of labor seems to have busted the myth that hands and knees position can benefit posterior labors. I address this in another commentary exploring that paper in depth.

There is some truth and some myth in all this.

But, we must be careful! We don't want to replace one dogmatic idea for another! 

 

Penny Simkin brought notice to several dogmatic myths about the OP Fetus to the fore front of discussion during the summer of 2006 at the annual DONA International  conference. She listed several myths the birthing community has about Posterior labors. 

So, I'd like to start with the list of myths which Penny Simkin has helped us identify. After each myth, I'll give my two cents worth.  

 

 The Myths

MYTH: It is important to know the fetal position.

 Midwives have been debating this, gently, for years. But still we can think, if only I knew what position the baby was in I would know what to do.

However, it isn't the position that directs our actions so much as the labor pattern. Each labor is different, each mother is different. So knowing isn't what gets the baby out. More often today, knowing that the baby is posterior adds stress. The mother may be alarmed and the doctor may even suggest a cesarean. He or she may think, why go through labor if a cesarean is the end result anyway? How atrocious! Only a relatively few babies will need such help to finish birth.

Most posterior babies will come out on their own. Well, with the help of a strong labor and a patient mother! 

Ms. Simkin asks, Will outcomes be improved by this knowledge?

 

In spite of the lovely Belly Mapping pages on this website, knowing position is not as important as responding to the needs of any given labor. 

What is more important than knowing fetal position is relaxing the soft tissues associated with childbirth. The muscles, ligaments and bones may need acommodation regardless of fetal position. In other words, tension in the psoas pair of muscles or pelvic floor can delay an anterior baby and a posterior baby. Extension of the anterior fetus' head can prevent engagement in some pelvises. The main point is that we can, generally, promote progress regardless of fetal position.

 

 

MYTH: If we prevent OP before labor than we can prevent OP in labor

Helping the baby rotate with abdominal stroking or by pelvic rocking hasn't shown lasting effects.

I think this is because the environment that the baby is in will not be effected by such measures. The symmetrical womb allows for an anterior baby. A twist in the lower uterine segment, or pelvic misalignment are reasons for a posterior baby. If the baby has been lured out of the posterior position without addressing uterine symmetry the baby is likely to slip right back into the position that the uterus is shaped to.  

To answer Karaminia's question of Pelvic Rocking correctly we would have to study 2nd trimester prevention excersizes among one group of women with no prevention methods in another group. Why? Because while most babies that start labor in an OP position will rotate to OA before the end of labor.

There is a consistent small group of babies who are OP throughout labor. This group are the mothers and babies that need Spinning Babies and Optimal Fetal Positioning. But how do we identify this group without helping the other mothers, too? And why wouldn't we help other mothers. We will. But because most OP babies rotate to OA , about 68% according to Gardberg, we shouldn't ignore the 15% (Lieberman) who are OP when they are born, either vaginally or cesarean.

 

 

 

MYTH: If the baby is Occiput Anterior (OA, the "best" starting position) in early labor the baby will stay in a good position throughout labor.

The recent Lieberman study confirmed statistical trends of earlier studies. 83% of the OA babies who were OA in early labor were OA when they came out. But a small 5.4% rotated to a direct Occiput Posterior position for birth. 

 

 

 

MYTH: Midwives and Doctors can tell the baby's position.
 

Ms. Simkin points out that the Leopold technique, commonly used to feel a baby's position through the abdomen) was found to be only 68% accurate.

That means sometimes we can and sometimes we can't.

There are three common ways a baby's position is sought. By hands-on palpation, or feeling the abdomen. The bumps in the belly mean something to a practiced hand. The problem is in the variation of bellies and bumps. Sometimes the bumps don't make a picture that the person feeling can make out. Bellies come in different thicknesses. Babies can be curled up in interesting ways, looking far over a left shoulder with the feet aiming to the right, perhaps. Lots of amniotic fluid or muscle strength can hide details that might be needed to "see" the position.

Feeling inside, through the open cervic sometimes gives clues. But the little sutures (not stitches, but lines showing where the skull bones meet) can be just out of reach or the edge of the soft spot (fontanel) can feel like a suture, oddly enough. Feeling baby's position is not as simple as it looks in the books or on the plastic chart on a hospital L & D unit.

 

 

MYTH: Ultrasound can tell you the baby's position with 100% accuracy.

Ultrasound allows a technician to through dark water at a 3-D person displayed on a 2-D screen.

The crucial landmarks of the baby's head may be blurred, or the viewer can make a mistake in interpretation. Dr. Karen Davidson, the Ultrasound sonologist for the Lieberman group, studied 1,766 women in labor. She found that she had to exclude 162 women because their ultrasound pictures were uninterpretable. In the first six-months of the study Dr. Davidson found 13% of early labor ultrasounds were uninterpretable. As the study  went on, her accuracy improved, the report stated.  Since she was the Ultrasound expert on the study, I would think her early rates must be at least on par with the nation's Ultrasound interpreters, if not better than most.

Of the 1,562 births remaining in the Lieberman study, 51% had an intrepretable Ultrasound picture in late labor. That means 49% didn't. With those percentages, I don't think we can hang our hats on Ultrasound. And furthermore, how the baby's back is situated doesn't always tell us how the head is facing.

Many new obstetrical studies are being reported on discussing what is the best way, whether for accuracy or cost effectiveness, to determine a baby's head position. Transabdominal or vaginal Ultrasound access are currently being compared.

 

 

MYTH: Back pain is a sign of an Occiput Posterior (OP) baby.

Dr. Lieberman's Changes in Fetal Position study did not find a difference in back pain reported among women at 4 cm whether or not they had an OP baby. While this may be a bit too early in labor to make a blanket statement about back pain and posterior labor, experienced doulas and caregivers have all seen posterior labors that proceed without back pain.

The women with OP babies in early labor (3 to 4 cm mostly) enrolling in the Lieberman study did not report more back pain at 3-4 cm dilation. After that, as 92% of the women had epidural analgesia, back pain was not investigated further in labor. As a doula of women with and without epidural pain relief, many without, I have noted that OP back pain, when it does come, often comes between 4 and 6 cm, rather than before 4 cm.

Some women have relatively straightforward OP labors. (After Lieberman's report, we can wonder if we are still permitted to call labors by the fetal position name.) Women with OP labors that progress without stalls often do not report back pain at any intensity that would get a nurse questioning fetal position.  Some have no more labor pain in their backs as they do in the front. 

A few women have severe back pain early in labor, at 2 cm. These women are candidates for an inversion as soon as possible, if they will accept the task. Back pain is more about the fit of the baby than the position. Some posterior babies fit their mother's pelvises better than others.

 

Some women finding themselves in one or more of the following categories Might get some back pain in labor:

 

Short women, women whose joints aren't flexible, women who've had accidents effecting thier pelvis or necks, women who have weak back muscles, some women with posterior babies, or women whose babies have one of their arms up near their necks in late labor.  

 

 

 

 

MYTH: When a woman is having prolonged labor without back pain, it is from a reason other than posterior position.

Oh, thank you, Penny Simkin, for bringing this myth to our attention. I can't list the times a midwife, doula or nurse has told me their frustration at not being able to help a woman in a long labor, then say something like, "I thought of the Open-Knee Chest position (or another technique) but didn't try it because she didn't have back pain. But during the cesarean, the doctor said the baby was posterior, and that's why the baby wasn't coming through the pelvis." Back pain is not the signal that tells us whether or not the baby is posterior.

A delay or a stall in labor, with or without back pain can often be corrected by one form of inversion or another.

Back pain, with or without a stall in labor, may also be soothed by inversion.

Sometimes back pain is from a spasm in a ligament low in the back of the uterus, such as the ligament holding the cervix to the sacrum. Inversion gives that ligament a gentle stretch and then when the mom gets up the ligament can relax. Ahhh.

There are some protective guidelines about inversion. See the article, and ask your care provider if there is "a medical reason not to do it?" That great little question comes to us via Penny Simkin, too.

 

Some posterior labors can be fast, some slow. Some posterior labors are very painful, some are not. Some posterior labors are associated with needing help from vacuum, forceps or cesarean surgery to get born.  Many need Pitocin (Syntocin) to progress in the hospital. Some parents hoping for a homebirth have to transfer to the hospital for one or more of these interventions to finish their birth when the baby is posterior. Knowing what to expect from a posterior labor can be confusing.

 

 

MYTH: Position changes can change the OP position in labor

There are only a couple of studies on this topic. Neither has been studied using the 1st Principle. The studies tell us that several minutes on hands and knees are not enough to overcome the tension in a womb that holds a baby in an unfavorable position.

These studies are why I developed the order of techniques, "3 Princibles of Spinning Babies." First, you have to relax the involuntary muscles, including the muscle fibers mingled in the uterine ligaments. It isn't until after than that you get gravity, the 2nd Principle, helping and 3rd, move the pelvis to help the baby move.

For instance, if the head is stuck high at the brim, you don't open the bottom of the pelvis to help the baby out.  Then, wonder why squatting works for some women and not for others. If your front doorbell rings do you open the back door and wonder where you company is at? Why don't you see your visitor? When your neighbor across the back fence comes to call you always find her when you open the back door, so why does it work for one and not another? I'm just showing you the logic that is behind the assumption.

  

 

To bring these Posterior Myths together, you may enjoy reading The Long Labor that Wasn't. The pictures are wonderful. But then I'm biased! 

 

 

 

 

About posterior

 

Drawing of two babies, one anterior with chin tucked, one posterior with chin upWhat is it about posterior presentation? How come some posterior babies have a relatively easy labor and others need the help of a cesarean?

 

The baby is head down. Now what? If the baby's back is on the mother's left labor is likely to be easier than if the baby's back in on the mother's right side.

More than that, if the baby's chin is tucked, a posterior baby's head can mold a bit better and may be less difficult time rotating than if the baby's chin is lifted (extended).

 

What follows is a fairly detailed description of the process of birth as it relates to posterior fetal position. 

 

Drawings of the 3 variations of anterior babies 

Anterior presentation

Before we can talk in depth about posterior presentation, I have to make a case for anterior presentation.

 

The anterior fetal positions (see three babies in the drawing to your right). The babies on their mothers' left or straight in front with a foot on mother's right rib, are in the ideal starting position for labor. Not only is anterior the most common starting position, but the head fits the pelvis the best when the back of the head (the occiput bone) is nearest the front of the mother (her anterior).

 

 Drawing of two fetal head outlines each in relation to the pelvic brim, anterior and posterior

 

 

 

Mother's spine is towards the bottom of your screen. Anterior and posterior heads trying to fit into the pelvic brim. 

 

 

 

 Flexion

The anterior baby can tuck his or her chin easily in the last month of pregnancy. In the second trimester the baby settles head down with the help of gravity and the tone of the uterine muscle walls. As the third trimester establishes, the womb ripens, or softens a bit.

Drawing of a baby with a flexed chinThis allows the baby to slide down from the rounder, upper portion of the womb into the lower uterine segment. The womb is pear shaped. The lower part of the womb is just right for the head to settle in, when the uterus is in balance and the pelvis bones are aligned, or in their proper place and not twisted a little at the joints.

The baby slips down the lower slope of the womb. The weight of the baby's back slipping down bends the baby's neck and the chin tips down to touch the chest. This is flexion.

When baby tucks his or her chin, the crown of the head comes into the pelvis first. The crown moulds as labor contractions move the baby's head down into the pelvis and through the pelvic floor. The crown of the head moulds better than any other part of the baby's head. Moulding makes the diameter of the head smaller so the head fits more easily through the pelvis.

The anterior baby can help a lot with the birth process. The bent neck is stronger and more mobile when the chin is tucked to the baby's chest. The head can navigate better. The baby's back can move, flexing and straightening at the appropriate times to aim best and move down. 

 

 

Posterior presentation

Drawing of posterior baby saying, "That's my occiput...that's your posterior."Facing forward, the baby's position is called posterior.  The baby's head may be flexed or extended (chin up).  But when the baby's forehead is at the pubic bone the baby is posterior.


When the baby's spine and the mother's spine are closest, the baby is in the direct occiput posterior position. The back of baby's head is by mother's back.

 

 

Most research studies report on the occurrence and outcomes of only direct occiput posterior babies. Few look at right occiput and left occiput posterior babies (ROP and LOP). And none of the ones who do seem to differentiate between right and left lying babies. 

 

 

Comparing affects of babies starting labor on mothers' right side and left side

A woman's abdomen is not identical from one side of her navel to her other side. Her right side has the liver, a large firm organ in the upper right quadrant of her abdominal cavity. The bladder tips slightly towards the right, seemingly insignificantly. But the center of the forehead of a right occiput posterior baby and that of a direct occiput posterior baby does tend to rest a little left of center.

Drawings of two babies; one on the mother's right side, one on the mother's left when using the baby's back as determinant

The left side has no large organs. Her intestines move out of the way of the growing uterus. The descending colon swings down and around the left side and slips behind the uterus and into the sciatic notch of the pelvis before ending at the anus. The descending colon takes up a varying portion of the back, left portion of the pelvic organs. The colon fills with food waste and empties again, sometimes throughout the day. 

 

The anatomy of the mother tends to encourage a baby to put his or her back into the front left and face either the right hip of the mother or her right sciatic notch. The choice seems to depend on the shape of the mother's pelvis and how low the baby's head is in relation to the pelvic brim.

 

The mother's abdominal wall softens in late pregnancy. The baby settles against the sloping abdominal wall like settling into a hammock.   

 

 Comparison between anterior and posterior

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 Variations in posterior labor patterns

So, how come some women have a 3-hour posterior labor and others have a 3-day posterior labor? Variables include

    Head flexion

    Pelvic shape

    Muscle tone of the pelvic floor and abdomen 

    Activity and nutrition during pregnancy and labor, including maternal positioning

    Presence of pain numbing (and activity limiting) drugs

 

 

Two posterior babies, one with flexion, one with extension, one will fit one will not.

 

Flexion compared to extension in posterior presentation.

 

 

 

3 rotations of the posterior Baby 

If the baby has to rotate to fit the pelvis labor can take a long time.  When the mother has an epidural or narcotic that confines her to bed, she has less of a chance of having the baby rotate well or at all. 

 

 

 Rotation poster by Gail Tully, copyright Maternity House Publishing 2004

There are three types of rotation for a posterior baby. Graph by Gail Tully.

 

Three variations on fetal rotation with the posterior baby

    Long arc and short arc rotation of the posterior baby are described in the medical literature

            Long arc is when the direct OP baby can rotate around to come out OA.

            Short arc is when the direct OP baby rotates just a little to come out OP.

 

            There is an undiscussed variation of fetal rotation out of OP to OA. I named it the "start over" rotation. This is when the baby starts OP or ROP and has to swing around to the left occiput transverse to begin to engage in the pelvis.  The first part of rotation happens above the brim and before 4 cm. The fact that active dilation doesn't usually occur until after the baby rotates and then enters the brim may be why the obstetrical literature doesn't explore this variation.

If the baby does rotate after labor starts the changes in fetal position may appear to be random, when in fact, the OP baby first changes to face the mother's left. Then after more strong contractions, the baby swings over to face the right. Now the baby can tuck his chin. Then the baby may come into the pelvis and begin to rotate to the anterior.

But, if the original soft tissue tension is still there, or if the mother's pelvis has a bit of a narrow outlet, or both, the baby can swing back to the posterior. Another reason the baby could revert to the posterior position is that the mother had an epidural that relaxed the pelvic floor and let the forehead of the baby lead the way through the lower pelvis rather than with a firm pelvic floor and flexing the head as it came through the opening in the pelvic floor. The "start over" rotation is a key contribution made by Spinning Babies to help explain one of the three variations on posterior labor patterns.

 

 

Contractions are strong, however. When the baby doesn't fit the brim, often these contractions feel stronger than transition phase of labor. 

 

There may be more variations, such as a posterior baby that rotates to OA (about 5% do so, usually because of epidural anesthesia, but also from unidentified causes, as well). 

 

 

Where in the pelvis the baby rotates has an effect on labor length, as well.

If the baby can't get into the pelvis without first rotating to LOT, as in the "start over" rotation discussed above, then contractions may take a day or even two just to rotate the baby. Using Principle 1 extensively before and during labor may shorten this time considerably.

Afterwards, there is often a pause, or stall, its sometimes called, in labor. This lets the uterus rest. That is, of course, if the mother can really rest and eat well to refresh herself. Its relative.

Success doesn't demand a full night sleep. On the contrary, birthing women are in the prime of life. Even older birthing women. Once the baby rotates into a left occiput transverse (left occiput lateral in the UK and down under) then labor will resume with a straightforward labor pattern.

 

Drawing of pelvis with pelvic floor shownIf the baby did descend into the pelvis in the posterior position, before labor began, then finishing the vaginal birth will depend on the pelvic diameters. Inversion is still helpful, even if the baby doesn't come out of the pelvis and rotate around. Inversion can untwist a tight lower uterine segment and help the head to continue to descend all the way through the pelvis.

 

 

The pelvis can then be opened wider with maternal positions that are vertical and allow the pelvis to move freely. Kneeling with the arms over the head hanging onto a bedstead, Rebozo or door handles will lengthen the torso giving the posterior baby the room he or she needs.

 

Occasionally, a women with a posterior baby has a smaller outlet than average. The baby may have to descend through the pelvis and onto the perineum before rotation is possible. Then you get to see the baby's head rotate. Usually it happens in the midst of a strong contraction during a crown--when the baby's scalp is visible.

 

 

 

 

Statistics on posterior presentation


“There were 2,591 (8.2%) neonates delivered in occiput posterior position of the total cohort of 31,392 deliveries.”

Yvonne W. Cheng, et al. The Association Between Persistent Occiput Posterior Position and Neonatal Outcomes Obstetrics & Gynecology 2006;107:837-844. 2006


At delivery, incidence was 5.5% overall;     7. 2 in first time mothers;        4% in experienced mothers
               

-Ponkey, S et al. Persistent Occiput Posterior Position: Obstetric outcomes.  Ob & Gyn. Vol 101,  No. 5. Part 1. May 2003


A persistent fetal occiput posterior position was recorded in 8.1% … and 7.8 of the studies two groups of women.   

Kariminia, A et al Randomized controlled trial of effect of hands and knees posturing on incidence of Occiput posterior position at birth. BMJ Online First. January 2004

 

Associated outcomes

Researchers find that about 1 in 5 labors with an OP baby at the start of labor, experience spontaneous rupture of the amniotic membranes before contractions begin. Mikael Gardberg (1994) 

 

First stage of labor was longer. Souka ()  Fitzpatrick (2001)  Ponkey (2004)

 

There was more induction of labor,  augmentation of labor,  epidural use and severe tears.  Fitzpatrick (2001)

 

When the baby was persistently OP (OP at the time of birth, as opposed to having rotated during labor)

    Only 26% of first time mothers and

    57% of experienced mothers 

were able to give birth spontaneously (without vacuum or cesarean) - Ponkey (2003)

 

Fitzpatrick found similar numbers, 29% of first time and 55% of experienced mothers giving birth spontaneously.  

 


 Mother exploring just born son, born posterior very quickly

What to do about OP 

The 3 Principles of Spinning Babies are devoted to helping a mother improve her uterine symmetry. When the womb is symmetrical and the pelvic muscles and psoas muscles are generally relaxed (as opposed to spasming or just really tight) then a baby can settle into an ideal starting position for labor. This is optimal fetal positioning for labor. 

 

Moving freely in labor, using Principles 2 and 3, often allows the spontaneous birth of the occiput posterior baby. A few women have a pelvic shape that allows, even encourages a posterior baby.

 

Lets end with a delightful meditation on mother and child. This photograph is of a mother and baby after a fast, spontaneous, direct OP birth. She certainly honored her body's signals and needs in giving birth.              

 

 

Are malpositions scary?

 

Every labor is different.

This is also true labors when a baby is in a malpositions. Since posterior labors vary from one another, generalizing about posterior labors is risky.  Yet, more women with a posterior baby will need interventions to finish the birth.

Here are five categories that effect the course of a posterior labor.

 

 

        1.  Soft tissue tension or laxity (this category includes difference in parity)

        2.  Angle of fetal head in relation to pelvis

        3.  Pelvic shape or size, sometimes only significant because of the angle of the fetal head

        4.  Mother's response to pain, unexpected pattern or length of labor

        5. Caregivers response to length of labor or fetal position

 

 

 

 Challenges with malposition can be met with patience, support and/or interventions.

 

1. Soft tissue tension or laxity

Tissue tension can keep the baby high and slow descent. The lower uterine segment can be twisted from asymmetry in the ligaments supporting the uterus. Soft tissue tension often relaxes after many hours of labor.

 Undisturbed birth as a strategy for posterior labor can succeed if the mother stays hydrated, somewhat rested, and patient. A woman's intuition may lead her to positions that help the baby press harder on the pelvic floor. If she is afraid of increasing labor pain, she may choose to avoid those positions that strengthen labor and thereby lengthen her labor considerably.

A doula may suggest sifting with the Rebozo and follow up with the Abdominal Lift (for rotation) in particular. The pelvic floor release can be dramatic.

Medical interventions may be use of medications such as muscle relaxants or the epidural. The risk of cesarean rises with medication and other interventions. In a few cases, the sudden relaxation of the pelvic floor allows the birth to finish rather rapidly in comparison. In those few incidences the epidural will seem exonerated. An IV drip of the artificial hormone Pitocin (Syntocin) may be chosen by the doctor or may be necessary when these medications are used.

Pitocin can be useful at times and some women manage a Pitocin labor without the need for painkillers. Each woman has their own level of sensitivity to Pitocin. Dim lights, warmth and massage can increase a woman's sense of well being and remove much of the mental stress of the anticipation of pain from the Pitocin. Sometimes that is enough to manage labor without drugs. Other women are quite sensitive, or the Pitocin is turned up too fast for a woman to adjust her coping skills to. The Pitocin may be slowed down, turned off, or she may get drugs to dull the pain.

 

The principles of Spinning Babies can shorten labor considerably, especially beginning with the first principle. 

 

On the other hand, a lax abdominal tone will be helped by the Abdominal Lift (for descent), or by wearing a pregnancy belt during the entirety of labor. 

 

 

 

2.  Angle of fetal head in relation to pelvis

The angle of the fetal head is a concern when the baby is asynclitic (listening pose),  extended, or posterior. Any of these positions may need more than time and privacy to fit the pelvis. These angles make the head circumference larger than when the baby is flexed normally. Hyperflexed (overflexed) reduces the baby's ability to help with the birth rather than enlarging the head circumference. Many times patience and a vertical birth position with an open outlet allows the baby through the pelvis.

Undisturbed birth. Most posterior babies, even a good number that have their chins up, can be born vaginally. If a mother doesn't "tune into" a position that opens her pelvis and increases contraction strength descent may not be possible. We can't mistake a trust in birth to mean that we don't get help when its needed. Intervention is life saving for the baby who needs help to finish the birth. A dogmatic reliance on the ideology of natural birth is not faith. Faith is a action of the individual in the body of community. It is expected that the community can support the individual respectfully and even heroically in times of need. It is through that need, that vulnerability, that relationship is strengthened with our community.

Simple suggestions. A nurse or doula may be able to suggest positions that help flex the baby's head or open the pelvis. Sitting and hula hooping on a birthing ball can help  the head into the brim. Arching the woman back from the top of her thighs in the Walcher's position is a way to help the head into the brim when contractions are hard but the mom can't stand up. A lunge can help a baby past the midpelvis (ischial spines). A towel pull can help the baby through the outlet. There are more ways than this, but this list gives you an idea of the practical use of experience with a long labor or an "obstructed" labor.

Medical interventions. The baby's head is going to have to descend into the pelvis for any medical interventions, other than a cesarean, to work. Few medically trained personnel know many, if any, ways to get the baby into the brim. Once flexed, Pitocin may help if a mother's contractions aren't strong enough. (Sleep and hearty food followed by certain labor activities and birthing positions as wells as traditional birthing herbs and modalities may help strengthen contractions without the use of Pitocin. Please consult the likely health professionals.)

 Spinning Babies suggests addressing the uterine ligaments and abdominal tone in mid to late pregnancy for all women, so that this challenge becomes less common in labor. 

 

 

3.  Pelvic shape or size

Rarely, a woman's pelvis is too small for birth. Rickets may be the cause. Occasionally, a woman's pelvis will fit an anterior baby but not a posterior baby. More often this should be read as, Sometimes a woman's pelvis will fit an anterior baby WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT SET BY THE DOCTOR, but not a posterior baby who needs more time and movement for vaginal birth. Most often, the cesarean that was done for "failure to progress"  or for a baby that was too large loses it's credibility when the mother gives birth to her next child in shorter time and finds he or she is bigger yet than the last baby.

Undisturbed birth. Patience and movement, relaxation and frequent small meals are all ways to support  a long labor. There is a labor pattern that hints strongly of disproportion. See the article on this web site, Will baby fit?

Simple suggestions. A doula can help a mother and her partner adjust their expectations to fit their labor pattern.  There are labor positions that add room to the pelvis, like squatting, lunges and hands and knees positioning. Deep immersion in a pool of water can help the pelvic joint have optimal movement. A birth sling is an ideal way to help a baby fit when there is a question of size.

Medical interventions. When there is a small disproportion Pitocin may be able to assist where patience doesn't. But medical routines are likely to make a small disproportion into a major cascade of interventions. Women who have small outlets were shown in two studies to have more pain in pushing and more use of medication in labor.  Confinement to bed or pain numbing drugs may make a vacuum or cesarean necessary when food and vertical positions would have supported a vaginal birth. When the baby really doesn't fit, then a cesarean is a life saver. 

Spinning Babies seeks to help babies into an ideal starting position for labor in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. Then the baby is most likely to fit a somewhat smaller pelvis.  Professional body work can help increase pelvic mobility.  A limit is suggested in the presence of a stalled labor--a birth sling or dangle and no progress in rotation or descent during four hours of labor with strong contractions.

 

 

4. Mother's response to pain, unexpected pattern or length of labor

If a woman becomes distressed by her labor, she is not as intuitive as when she is calm. She may not know what to do when her stress level rises.  Sometimes a woman does know what to do, but she is confined to bed or restricted from a deep birthing pool. She asks to get up but the doctor, midwife or nurse says she can not. One woman got quite annoyed and lept from the delivery bed to sit upon the toilet. The baby immediately dropped into position and soon crowned. 

Sometimes a woman can not read her labor signals. This is common with a posterior baby. The posterior labor pattern is different than an anterior labor pattern.  If she is unsure of how to mark progress by her bodily sensations, she can become upset at the real or imagined lack of progress.

When a birthing woman crosses her threshold of expectation she can rapidly descend into despair and accept more extreme interventions than that which may be necessary for the birth. A simple change of position, perhaps enhanced with Rebozo jiggling, may be all that is needed. But a distressed woman may immediately accept the epidural and Pitocin--routine treatment for posterior labors within the standard hospital setting.

 

Undisturbed birth. Internal focus and hormonal release can allow the birthing woman to perceive labor contractions as much less painful than a woman who labors in a bright, strange environment with people coming and going somewhat unpredictably. A posterior labor may sometimes distract a woman from her internal locus of control. But certainly not all. I remember fondly sitting next to my midwife friend across the room from the birthing woman who squatted and laughed through transition. Rather suddenly and amazingly smoothly her posterior baby slipped out facing up at her. She was still laughing. Its true that this is an unusual story, but it is an absolutely honest story.

I've also talked to women who began to stay at home with their labor with only the help of their partner. The pain of a posterior labor made them change their minds and go into the hospital where they birthed shortly after arrival in some cases, and with the help of a cesarean in other cases. The woman who births unattended must either figure it out for herself, with the help of her partner, or call for support.  Changes in birth plans can be a nurturing way to welcome a baby and a new mother.

Simple suggestions. A midwife or doula with knowledge about fetal rotation can be a wonderful reassurance at this time. In fact, the doula may be able to make her suggestions for relaxing the abdominal muscles and for maternal positions to enhance rotation before the mother reaches her emotional limit. A doula may have skills for comforting the mother and helping her to cope. The mother may also have brought some homeopathic remedies for labor pain, or have other access to alternative professional help. A doula is not trained to make assessments for a woman birthing without a midwife. It is beyond the doula to be able to manage signs of clinical exhaustion, for instance. A doula may easily miss signs of trouble. Her skill is in the emotional support.

Medical interventions.  First of all, an experienced nurse can be extremely reassuring to the mother. When the nurse with years of experience tells a woman that she can do this labor then, most mothers can accept that these challenges are not outside of the realm of normal. Second, medications may have side effects, but their usefulness is for women who have exceeded their emotional or physical limit.  

Spinning Babies accepts that women's needs vary widely. While labor pain and perceptions of labor can be addressed with non-pharmaceutical means, suffering may not be well addressed by a doula or a partner alone. Medications have their place and time.

 

 

 

 

        5. Caregivers response to length of labor or fetal position

A caregiver's response to length of labor or fetal position will influence the caregiver's decision whether or not to support a woman with a vaginal birth.

Human response has to do with both experience and emotion. Less often, research inspires lasting change. Perhaps for the first few births after reading a research finding, a physician or midwife may try a new approach, which is to say, a new response. Trying a recommendation in literature may or may not change maternity practice. Research recommendations are not generally coming from inside the physician's hierarchical network of medical advisors.

Depending both on how the outcomes were, and also by the practice partner or hospital administration's reaction to their change in practice. Lately, hospital administrators have been directing their physicians to increase the cesarean rate to 25%, 50% or more. It is becoming easy to pre-select a woman for cesarean if her baby is posterior. When so many women are pre-selected for cesarean section to meet quotas, any variation in normal can be included as a reason for cesarean. The physician works for a corporation. She or he has workplace pressures that demand moving patients through the system to increase profitability for their employer.

 

As recently as 1971 our national cesarean rate was only 5%. Physician patient relationships were more often life long. Care of birthing women was frequently given to the family physician who saw the effects of his actions on his patients for life. Few doctors practicing today remember a cesarean rate of 5%. Many doctors barely remember a 15% or even 20% rate. The  culture of medicine today does not include physiologically intact birth. 

instead, the physician today must remember the lawyer. Too often we mediate conflict through legal means. Some parents never get heard unless they hire a lawyer.  Self-preservation in a job that is constantly under threat of legal oversite is not always compatible with the needs of birthing families, or the doctors who serve them.

The emotional state of the physicians, midwives and nurses has a direct, if little studied, effect on labor outcomes. Care givers are only human. People are not unbiased. And medicine today is not conducted to favor health statistics. If the nurse or doctor is frightened, they will attempt to control their fear with technological support. This is what, most often, feels supportive to the hospital practitioner. Its what they know.

The doula might keep in mind that the health care provider has emotional needs that will implicate the manner, if not the method of care, given. A calming presence not only helps the mom, but also the entire birth team.

Simple suggestions for parents. Present a calm, rational communication style. Smile.  State your questions and your preferences clearly. Even if you don't agree with when or whether to start an intervention, you can agree that the caregiver has a concern. If you don't see things their way, ask for the benefits, risks, and alternatives (for instance, is there time to wait to make a decision?). When you suggest a course of action, speak clearly and truthfully. Don't feel shy, guilty or embarrassed to state your case. Don't hold back hoping they will somehow meet  your unspoken desires. Speak like an equal, but also show appreciation for their role as your care giver.

Its really up to you to learn as much as you can and participate in the many decisions that arise during childbirth. Especially, you want to be active in discussions over any unexpected turn of events. If there is a true emergency, you will have to trust their judgment somewhat more than when labor is simply slow, or has the normal posterior lulls and peaks.

Too many physicians are using the current fear over posterior position as an excuse to plan a cesarean without labor. This is malpractice, in my opinion. 85% of posterior babies rotate. We should be paying attention to how we can help spontaneous rotation, or when that isn't possible, descent with an OP position. Physicians have less and less training on variations of normal birth. It is too simple to meet every variation with a surgical team. The dangers for mothers and babies increase with major surgery and mother infant separation. There is much we can do to empower women to give birth with her own physiology intact.  

 

Each particular labor pattern reveals which techniques are specific during the phase of labor. Descent will effect labor pattern, as well as dilation.  Read about Posterior labor patterns.

Malposition may or may not present a significant challenge for an individual birthing woman. Indeed, from the conversations I have with women around the country, I'd venture that most women who had posterior babies at the beginning of their previous labor, or at any time in labor, were never aware of the fact. Labor might be a bit long, or not. Her back may have hurt, or not. There may have been a significant stall in labor, or not.

Most providers are not that aware of fetal positioning either and can not tell the mother accurately what position her baby is in. Misreading or not being able to discern a baby's position is a combination of lack of training and a result of the mystery of having an entire human being curled up in a muscular bag of water under a layer of abdominal muscles and fat. Given the variety of limb placement and torso twisting possible to that little one, especially in a posterior position, even some ultrasound technicians have to approximate the position when giving the position a name.

 

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